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Ridiculous! 20 minutes deadline
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Send message Joined: 7 Sep 17 Posts: 42 Credit: 1,886,582 RAC: 461 |
Please fix your schedules for tasks being sent out. These extremely short turnaround times are unmanageable for probably the majority of users attached to the project. This is a waste of computing resources, yours and our upload/download Internet bandwidth. Please explain what is the reason you need them back so soon? Ridiculous! 20 minutes deadline on recently sent out tasks. Example: Task 171645641 Sent 20 Nov 2025, 19:56:18 UTC Report deadline 20 Nov 2025, 20:16:18 UTC
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Send message Joined: 8 Sep 17 Posts: 31 Credit: 23,086,190 RAC: 23,817 |
I brought it up before with a 2 hour deadline https://rake.boincfast.ru/rakesearch/forum_thread.php?id=359#1961 |
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Send message Joined: 7 Sep 17 Posts: 42 Credit: 1,886,582 RAC: 461 |
mmonnin wrote: I brought it up before with a 2 hour deadline Indeed you did. But it appears it went in one ear and out through the nose with out even touching the brain of the project admin. |
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Send message Joined: 11 Aug 17 Posts: 694 Credit: 33,214,144 RAC: 37,663 |
These tasks were very short - about 1..2 minutes for an "average" computer. And they were successfully computed. |
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Send message Joined: 7 Sep 17 Posts: 42 Credit: 1,886,582 RAC: 461 |
These tasks were very short - about 1..2 minutes for an "average" computer. And they were successfully computed. Even if they very short running tasks the deadline/turn around time should be more reasonable. As others have said previously At least a one day minimum.
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Send message Joined: 11 Aug 17 Posts: 694 Credit: 33,214,144 RAC: 37,663 |
Small computational complexity reduces lost of really performed computations to values tending to zero. The computer either received task, immediately computed it and return it, or simply did not start computations. "Full push, no risk". Max Verstappen. :) Otherwise, there will always be 1% of tasks that have not started and processing of tasks bunch will last not hours but days. |
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Send message Joined: 8 Sep 17 Posts: 31 Credit: 23,086,190 RAC: 23,817 |
hoar, short deadline tasks are a waste of time, Running these tasks interrupt other work losing more time than it takes to actually run them. These are 100% a F'ing waste of time. No task should have a deadline of less than 2-3 days no matter the run time. Repeatedly setting stupid deadlines shows you have no concern for the people that support your project and that you're just a greedy admin to no respect for your volunteers or the admins of other projects that you just interrupted. |
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Send message Joined: 11 Aug 17 Posts: 694 Credit: 33,214,144 RAC: 37,663 |
Hello! If computer is involved in more than one project, BOINC client balances the time consumed by each project based on the configured priority. If any project reached the quota, BOINC Manager simply does not request tasks for it. And when one of task is paused due to start of another task, it is not interrupted but is frozen in memory and restarts later without of CPU time loss. Unless, of course, default value for setting "Leave non-GPU tasks in memory while suspended" has been changed. I am cruncher also, not only project admin. :)
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Send message Joined: 8 Sep 17 Posts: 6 Credit: 5,764,967 RAC: 10,397 |
20 minute deadlines suck. They do not treat volunteers with courtesy. |
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Send message Joined: 11 Aug 17 Posts: 694 Credit: 33,214,144 RAC: 37,663 |
Hello! We have released another experimental set of tasks. During processing first 10000 tasks, we saw that deadline should be increased up to 60 minutes. Real computing time - 6 .. 8 minutes for 2020's Ryzen and 12..16 minutes for 2010's Xeon CPU. And of course don't forget of tasks queue logic. :) Thank you for participation! |
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Send message Joined: 19 Sep 22 Posts: 2 Credit: 2,435,740 RAC: 8,146 |
У меня дофига заданий в ошибку уходят Joint search of DLS spectra with Gerasim project. Постоянно считает задания которые по дедлайну должны уже в ошибку уходить... И в кеш загружается по 300 заданий а пока до них дойдет очередь половина успеет обратно улететь... а в настройках можно только максимум 8 заданий на выполнение сделать а процессор у меня 20 ядерный может по 20 заданий за раз считать. Это капец какой то... Сделайте либо чтобы через настройки можно было больше больше 8 заданий за раз считать так как у всех разное количество ядер и потоков либо дедлайн больше по времени. Я могу конечно выставить 8 заданий но у меня тогда 12 ядер и потоков простаивать будут смысл в этом в чем? Задания Boinc выбирает не понятно по какой логике не которые по дедлайну крайние а фиг пойми как. Это называется успеет не успеет посчитать пофиг а может и начать считать когда уже задания должны улететь по дедлайну и вообще не начинать считаться... С кешем заданий 300 штук дедлайн не час должен быть а пол дня минимум а лучше сутки. Вне зависимости от времени выполнения каждого задания на средней системе. Т.е. на 60 заданий 1 час а лучше 1.5 часа значит на 300 заданий в кеше надо 7.5 часов грубо говоря. |
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Send message Joined: 19 Sep 22 Posts: 2 Credit: 2,435,740 RAC: 8,146 |
До 8 заданий кеш убрал ибо нафиг оно надо блин... Можно и ядра с потоками лишние отключить тогда. |
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